Guide: Chances of Success

[Kagen]

One additional discovery I made recently is that only the total points of army+mech when you enter a dungeon count towards the outcome of the result. If, after sending you army to a dungeon, you dismiss some units, thus decreasing the total point count, you'll still be victorious even though after rehealing + dismissed units, the dungeon is shown in yellow or orange.

Yes, st0rm. Had I known this wasn't common knowledge I would have told you. But well, Uiqua told us about this setting from his own initiative at german forum.

[st0rm]

Better later than never. It was just an observation I made recently, no need to worry about it.

Cheers,
st0rm

[Bored]

Ok thank for the answer st0rm. ^^ If it wasn't for that, even by removing all my army i would still be way over the red nvm switching stuff for finding the accurate data :/ (Only the "Red finish and Orange start" for the first dungeons were done using this method.


Count Brion's Estate (1)

Red finish at : 719 Points
Orange start at : 720 Points
Orange finish at : 1 088 Points
Yellow start at : 1 089 Points
Yellow finish at : 1 187 Points
Light green start at : 1 188 Points
Light green finish at : 1 307 Points
Dark green start at : 1 308 Points


Crypt of the Veterans (2)

Red finish at : 1 499 Points
Orange start at : 1 500 Points
Orange finish at : 2 249 Points
Yellow start at : 2 250 Points
Yellow finish at : 2 474 Points
Light green start at : 2 475 Points
Light green finish at : 2 724 Points
Dark green start at : 2 725 Points


1. Boss: The chosen one of the Sianedan (Epic unit: Lava Scorpion)

Red finish at : 1 499 Points
Orange start at : 1 500 Points
Orange finish at : 2 249 Points
Yellow start at : 2 250 Points
Yellow finish at : 2 474 Points
Light green start at : 2 475 Points
Light green finish at : 2 724 Points
Dark green start at : 2 725 Points


And no, i didn't copy / paste by mistake the same data for the 1st boss and 2nd dungeons, they really both share the same data. Btw, even after finding 2 or 3 data who were the same, i still looked for every color for both and not simply finding one and copy the second on the first. ... i also did the yellow/light green for the dungeons °2 ... not because i was doubting the data but simply because in the middles of doing it, i forgot it was already done

[DiannaDark]

Thank you.

[Kagen]

Points: 28,620
Halls of Sirna + The Abyss + Boss: Hostage of Quar (Fallen ANgel) orange


29,494 points:
Hostage of Quar yellow

This is confimred in the list by the way, I just noticed.


30,511 points:
II, 10 + Halls of Sirna + The Abyss orange
Hostage is yellow

This can get a little bit corrected for the abyss.
Like this:

The Abyss (7)

red to: 22.688 Points

orange from: 25.944 Points

orange to: 30.511 Points

yellow from: 35.925 Points

yellow to: 37.740 Points

light green from: 42.949 Points

light green to: 44.095 Points

dark green from: 44.686 Points

[Bored]

Chapter 1 – Quest 14

Red finish at : 1 199 Points
Orange start at : 1 200 Points
Orange finish at : 1 799 Points
Yellow start at : 1 800 Points
Yellow finish at : 1 979 Points
Light green start at : 1 980 Points
Light green finish at : 2 179 Points
Dark green start at : 2 180 Points


Count Brion's Estate (1)

Orange finish at : 1 079 Points
Yellow start at : 1 080 Points


Burial grounds for the Palanthenes (3)

Red finish at : 4 199 Points
Orange start at : 4 200 Points
Orange finish at : 6 299 Points
Yellow start at : 6 300 Points
Yellow finish at : 6 929 Points
Light green start at : 6 930 Points
Light green finish at : 7 629 Points
Dark green start at : 7 630 Points


1. Boss: The chosen one of the Sianedan (Epic unit: Lava Scorpion)

Red finish at : 1 499 Points
Orange start at : 1 500 Points
Orange finish at : 2 249 Points
Yellow start at : 2 250 Points
Yellow finish at : 2 474 Points
Light green start at : 2 475 Points
Light green finish at : 2 724 Points
Dark green start at : 2 725 Points


2. Boss: Mysx - The Fallen of the Firelands (Epic unit: Phoenix)

Red finish at : 4 499 Points
Orange start at : 4 500 Points
Orange finish at : 6 749 Points
Yellow start at : 6 750 Points
Yellow finish at : 7 424 Points
Light green start at : 7 425 Points
Light green finish at : 8 174 Points
Dark green start at : 8 175 Points


I re-posted the Boss °1 since it has been forgotten :p


Oh man ... while looking at all that i found something Pretty Nice.
With only the Orange start data you can found pretty much everything else.


Yellow Start = Orange Start + 50%
Light Green Start = Orange Start + 65%
Dark Green Start = Orange Start + 81.666...%

Or for those bad with %

Yellow Start = Orange Start x 1.5
Light Green Start = Orange Start x 1.65
Dark Green Start = Orange Start x 1.81666...

I have looked to see if it was applying to what i previously did and yeah it do for all aside for the Dungeons °1 (Yellow starts) But aside this, everything else i did follow that rule ... which is why i will redo Yellow start and Orange finish for the dungeons °1 ... since between me doing a mistake or this one being a loner in the rule, i believe i was the one in the wrong.

On the scary side, it also mean if the Boss °10 turn orange at 200k then it would turn Dark Green at 363 334. Probably the only thing nobody will ever do in dark green but will test their luck on even the yellow if not orange xD

[Bored]

Sorry for the double post, however i re-did the dungeons °1 and found out i was indeed wrong the for 'orange finish at' and 'yellow start at'. (I Edited my first post adding the right data for those)

So with that, everything i previously did, follow the rule i found before.

Some may not have really understand so i will try to be more clear here, if i'm going to make a double post may as well make it usefull ;p

However, I'm so good at explaining than the more i explain, the harder it is to understand XD, so somebody with a better explaining power than me is more than welcome to make thing more easy to understand ^^'. My bad explaining strenght isn't because i'm not perfect in english, i'm just as bad in french Still ... i will not try to explain the % since it's harder to explain .... and since both get the same result why bother ?)


Ex : Chapter 1 - Quest 14

Orange Start = 1200

If you make 1 200 x 1.5 you get 1 800
If you make 1 200 x 1.65 you get 1 980
If you make 1 200 x 1.816666666666666 you get 2 179.999 (I doesn't get 2 180 'cause my pc calculator only allow me 16 numbers in all and therefore i could only write 15 numbers after the period (you can count ^^ it wasn't a random amount of 6 ^^), a better calculator who would allow at least 16 number behind the period and more would get 2 180 (just confirmed it with an online calculator )


As for the Burial grounds for the Palanthenes (3)

Orange start at 4200 so,

4200 x 1.5 = 6 300
4200 x 1.65 = 6 930
4200 x 1.81666 = 7 630

For everything i did so far when applying this rule with the lowest orange data (pinpoints) it was matching the lowest data for yellow, light green and dark green for those i previously did and since it's the lowest data for each color, simply by removing 1 points you get the data for when the previous color finish... So in theory ... simply by finding the orange start (pinpoints data) you can found out all other color pinpoints data. It need to be thoroughly tested before blindy using it ... But would Ulquia be able to confirm this rule or it's not something in his power ?

Well, the color was probably a bigger help than what i said xD

[Kagen]

Make this: 1.816666666666666 into this fraction: 109/60. Then it is accurate.

Uiqua can confirm this rule, yes.

[Bored]

Thx Kagen for the 109/60 :p it's easier this way ^^.

I did write a mail to Ulquia about the rule, i'm waiting his answer. I think they all follow it but as long i don't get the confirm from Ulquia i can't use it but so far the rule apply to all of them ...

Quest 1.13, 1.14, 1.19, 1.20
Dungeons °1, °2, °3, °4, °5
Boss °1, °2, °3 and °4

I didn't post some of them yet 'cause i'm lazy and it seem st0rm isn't really into updating stuff, so i will probably do everything before, then go and bother him to do a big update That said ... i'm nowhere near getting Raleshi or ToS --' (Which will be need for the last dungeons ... unless Ulquia confirm the rule, then only finding orange would be enough to find all other color.)

[st0rm]

I have been a bit busy lately but still visiting the forum at least twice a day. You can message me anytime, there's no bother at all. I must say I am a fan of your work!!

Cheers,
st0rm