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Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Tue 13. Oct 2015, 01:30
by GYNDE
I have been trying to figure this one out for a while.....

SO I start with a 10 hour production of wood.
20% for research - drops the time to 8 hours... true.

Then The impdriver, which looks like an arbitrary number.. Fine.

NOw,,,,

Halloween Event 10% -
If it was on the total time ( 600 minutes) it would drop the time 1 hour ( 60 Minutes)
but it only drops the time by 45 minutes 36 seconds ( WHICH is what the drop is if you take 10 % off of the ending number of the ImpDriver reduction.

Is that the case?

In theory with my reductions of 38% - I should have a base reduction of 228 minutes
for a total time of 372 minutes ( 6 hours 12 minutes) less the Impdriver of 24 minutes, which would then equal a total time of
348 minutes, or 5 hours 48 minutes.

I think we are getting screwed out of a half-hour,

The research and Guild reductions say "reduce production time by "x"percent" - It should be cumulative....

Even without the IMpdriver, a straight 38%, which is what I have earned, is still 6 minutes LESS than the time I was given for this productions.




????????????



Actual below.
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Amount: 10.500 Wood

Cost: 1.155,00 Gold

Other goods: -

Imps in use: 30

Manufacturing time: 10 Hours

Your research has enabled a drop in production time of 20%.
New time: 8 Hours

Your imp driver cuts production times.
New time: 7 Hours 36 Minutes

The Halloween Event reduces production times by 10%.
New time: 6 Hours 50 Minutes 24 Seconds

The guild sacrifice has reduced production times by 3%.
New time: 6 Hours 38 Minutes 5 Seconds

Your guild demon reduces production times by 5%.
New time: 6 Hours 18 Minutes 11 Seconds

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Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Thu 15. Oct 2015, 18:14
by GYNDE
Any thoughts?

Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Sat 17. Oct 2015, 13:59
by Kagen
I dont really get the formula to do the maths. I have tried to find a formula, but maths isn't my best field of knowledge.

Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Mon 19. Oct 2015, 20:45
by st0rm
GYNDE wrote:I have been trying to figure this one out for a while.....

Actual below.
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Amount: 10.500 Wood
Cost: 1.155,00 Gold
Imps in use: 30
Manufacturing time: 10 Hours

Your research has enabled a drop in production time of 20%.
New time: 8 Hours

Your imp driver cuts production times (5% reduction from 8 hrs).
New time: 7 Hours 36 Minutes

The Halloween Event reduces production times by 10% (from 7hrs 36minutes).
New time: 6 Hours 50 Minutes 24 Seconds

The guild sacrifice has reduced production times by 3% (from 6hrs 50 minutes 24 seconds).
New time: 6 Hours 38 Minutes 5 Seconds

Your guild demon reduces production times by 5% (from 6 Hours 38 Minutes 5 Seconds) .
New time: 6 Hours 18 Minutes 11 Seconds

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My guess is the reduction % applies hierarchically in the order given by you in your example.
The reduction % applies to the already reduced time. It is not summed up and applied to the initial time all at once, so 5% reduction due to Imp Driver is only 24 minutes (from 8 hrs) and not 30 minutes (if it were to be directly applied to 10 hrs).

Cheers,
st0rm

Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Tue 20. Oct 2015, 04:51
by GYNDE
that is what I am thinking....


However, then, when it says "10% reduction", it _could_ mean really only 5%.

And that is what is misleading. We go to the research and it say - you have earned a 10% reduction -
YOur guild makes the sacrifices and you get "Production time reduction

- 3% of time at all productions
costs: 10,000,000 Guild Points "....

So in thoery you would have a 13% reduction in prodiction time.
BUT WE DON"T...
THat is what is irritating and misleading,

I wish Uiqua would at least say something....


*grumble, grumble, grumble*

Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Tue 20. Oct 2015, 09:27
by Uiqua
Hello everyone,

sorry for the late response! It is hierarchically like st0rm already said and is not summed up for the initial time.

Greetings

Uiqua

Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Tue 20. Oct 2015, 13:41
by GYNDE
Thank you for the response.


Well, that should be announced somewhere - that if you work hard and sacrifice, you won't get all your production reduction time.. Only part of it. ;)

Re: Reduced Production times... WE are being screwed.

PostPosted: Fri 30. Oct 2015, 22:02
by st0rm
GYNDE wrote:Thank you for the response.


Well, that should be announced somewhere - that if you work hard and sacrifice, you won't get all your production reduction time.. Only part of it. ;)

Nah, it's not partly, it's just a different approach. Maybe it should say "increased production by x%" and leave the time factor out?

Cheers,
st0rm