Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby Zarathos » Thu 6. Oct 2016, 20:06

Also thanks for the research time reduction! That's great news and it's pretty convenient I must say. Now it takes less than a year to upgrade all the resource researches to the max. I've been researching for almost a year now (30 days short) and I'm on 10/9/8/9 right now. I've missed a few days due to trap research but I would still not make it in one year, I think. I believe this is only for the best, although some might dissaprove it (I think?).

Edit: and another loss on easy. Fortress level 2. So far the last 20 fights resulted in 12 wins and 8 losses. Worst ratio I've had on easy in the last 8 months.
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby GYNDE » Fri 7. Oct 2016, 05:30

Research is still 48 hours....
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby spawn » Fri 7. Oct 2016, 09:23

About the fortress fights...I've noticed than now i'm getting more elementals, and I think that I am winning more battles (my chances are now around 60/40 and before 50/50 or less), I'm just playing in medium with a level 16 fortress with 5 sepharim and the rest Vanir princess units, for me the only goal in doing fortress battles is to get elementals
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby Zarathos » Fri 7. Oct 2016, 09:57

TBH, I'm confused now. Today it's pretty much okay. Yesterday it was hell, worst day since I've reached the 5k a-army point threshold (about 9 months ago). I still don't understand how things work. And not sure whether I should try doing medium. I was gearing my a-army to have as little health as possible. So I can't say my gear is good. I might try doing it after I research Tears of Blood and reach 20k+ total points with the a-army.

Thanks for letting us know about your results.
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby st0rm » Fri 7. Oct 2016, 13:16

GYNDE wrote:Research is still 48 hours....

Once you get to 48hrs research time it doesn't change anymore. As far as I understand, one gets to the 48 hrs threshold much later than before.
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby Animalux » Fri 7. Oct 2016, 16:19

What about all the hours we've lost, get some of them back. :)
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby Zarathos » Sat 8. Oct 2016, 01:18

After doing about a hundred of easy fortress attacks, I can confirm again that the chance of winning on easy fights has dropped. In 50 fights 9-10 fights are losses, compared to MAX 5-6 losses before the update. Most of my losses are to level 1-2 (sic!) fortresses. There is no logic behind these losses. I would really love to know the mechanic of f-fights and how in the world levels 1 and 2 are able to defeat my army considering most of them probably are inactives without traps.


EDIT: 12 losses in 50 fights on easy, meaning a 24% loss chance on easy. This completely discredits the whole idea of doing easy fights. The most strange thing is that most of those losses are to low-level fortresses. Another thing to fortify this: My French and German server accounts that have level 1 fortresses have BOTH had victories in defence in the last 2 days. Considering none of them have traps, this is just wrong. How come the mechanic works now in favour of alternative accounts and inactives? And I am not the only one noticing this, there is similar evidence of this on the German forum. People also have 20%+ chance of losing on easy fortress fights now.
I will give it a try doing medium fortress fights, but something tells me that it's going to be a disaster. I sincerely hope we will get some sort of response from developers regarding what kind of changes were made, why low-level fortresses are freaking shredding us and what can we do to increase our chances.
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby Zarathos » Sat 8. Oct 2016, 15:17

Medium fortresses seem to be almost the same as easy ones. Don't know what to think about this...
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby spawn » Sat 8. Oct 2016, 21:30

Zarathos, my a-army is 18.000 points and i am still losing fights in medium...Yes, I am losing money healing my army and doing medium fights but it's the only way to get elementals fast, to make money there are better ways ;)
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Re: Shadow Update IV and Easy Access

Postby Zarathos » Sun 9. Oct 2016, 22:44

So? I have 19.2k a-army points and yet somehow I lose to level 1 fortresses on EASY. My success rate on easy BEFORE the update was 85-95% on average. Now my success rate on easy is barely 75% if I'm lucky. If you care for elementals and don't care about honour and gold, fine by me. But I choose easy fortress fights for a reason.

And this isn't about personal preferences. I don't understand why such an advantage is given to level 1 fortresses. Such fortresses are mostly inactive, some are alternative accounts of players from different servers and a small percentage of actual newbies.

These are the results from my German server alt-account, defensive fights since the update:

ToxiC (666) Wurst verloren - 09.10.2016
lordbennet (GoE) Wurst gewonnen 1.184 Gold, 105 Punkte, 5 Ehre, 4 Blaupause 09.10.2016
Tanjin (MYST) Wurst verloren - 08.10.2016
Bibnchen (AR) Wurst verloren - 08.10.2016
SAMIEL (IP) Wurst gewonnen 1.151 Gold, 351 Punkte, 9 Ehre, 6 Blaupause 08.10.2016
Belgrim (MYST) Wurst verloren - 07.10.2016
Malkav (DO) Wurst gewonnen 1.422 Gold, 360 Punkte, 9 Ehre, 7 Blaupause, 3 Elementarstaub 07.10.2016
Freyja (MYST) Wurst verloren - 06.10.2016


So tell me, how come my level 1 fortress that has no traps can win 3 fights out of 8 attacks in defense? For pity's sake, I don't even have a-army units there! I shouldn't have any chances to win in defence there! And yet in 8 attacks since the update 3 are victories! Before the update I was lucky (sort of) to have 2 victories in 50 (!!!) fights. And sometimes I simply had none.

This spoils the easy fights for players completely. My average chance in medium fights (and I have just one (1) Seraphim) is 64%. Yet in medium fights I'm battling against fortresses level 8 to 15.

Somehow level 1 fortresses are as dangerous as level 15 fortresses. Wow, that makes a lot of sense /sarcasm

So yeah, I'm glad that things get revised here. Too bad it's revised to be bad, and to defy all logic and common sense.
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